The low-level guys ... can inflict a lot of collateral damage.

You've got people cracking codes and then someone responsible for storing the data. It's not like the mob sitting around a table. They are out in cyberspace, and they may never meet.

I do understand that the FBI's Sacramento division is engaged in the case, and we'll find out more as it develops.

We would look to see if there is a nexus, but I also think that there are many bad actors out there probing networks in an automated fashion.

Most of the younger guys who come in here, if they don't smoke, they will by the time they leave.